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Poster: Scrim Date: Jun 8, 2007 1:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Question about religion (non-Dead)

There have been a few religious posts lately, and it has me pondering an important question:

How does the bible explain dinosaurs? Did God create them too? Dinosaurs existed millions of years ago, but the bible says everything was created by God only a couple thousand years ago?

Any Bible readers out there who can show me the light?

Thanks

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Jun 8, 2007 8:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

Scrim:
This is the best I can do for you in regards to your Dinosaurs question:

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Aetree%20AND%20creator%3A%22Dinosaurs%22

http://www.deaddisc.com/disc/Friends_Of_Extinction.htm

http://www.deaddisc.com/disc/Dinosaurs.htm

--- AshesRising

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Poster: nagdot Date: Jun 8, 2007 8:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

speaking of dinosaurs you gotta love the rolling stones woohoo

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 8, 2007 2:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

who is God and why does S/He keep following me around?

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Poster: TheGreat_and_Knowledgable Date: Jun 8, 2007 2:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

I think Darwin has explanations for all forms of life which are widely considered scientific fact/proven theory

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jun 8, 2007 3:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

The mystical trend of our time, which shows itself particularly in the rampant growth of the so-called Theosophy and Spiritualism, is for me no more than a symptom of weakness and confusion. Since our inner experiences consist of reproductions, and combinations of sensory impressions, the concept of a soul without a body seem to me to be empty and devoid of meaning.
The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. The religion which based on experience, which refuses dogmatic. If there's any religion that would cope the scientific needs it will be Buddhism....
If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.
The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.
Immortality? There are two kinds. The first lives in the imagination of the people, and is thus an illusion. There is a relative immortality which may conserve the memory of an individual for some generations. But there is only one true immortality, on a cosmic scale, and that is the immortality of the cosmos itself. There is no other.-- Albert Einstein

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 8, 2007 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

Nice one Albert.

Religion is for those who are afraid of hell, Spirituality is for those who have been there.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Jun 8, 2007 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

I think there are 2 theories about that question, although I am no expert. One theory is that when God created the earth it was already thousands of years old. remember that 1 day to God is a thousand years to man (or something like that). A second theory comes from 2nd Peter which describes an earth age that existed before the creation of man. In other words the Angelic beings lived somewhere before Satan left God in his rebellion. I guess this is where the faith aspect of Christianity comes in. Once again I'm no authority on the subject and am not trying to preach to anyone here, just answering your question.

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Poster: Scrim Date: Jun 8, 2007 2:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

Cool, thanks. I really am curious as to how it all fits in. And how about all of the other planets and solar systems? Did He create those too? Or were those created by different Gods?

Speaking of different Gods, is the christian God the same as the one(s) the muslims pray to? How about the Buddhists and Hindus? I can only imagine that there would only be One, unles when the Christian God made the earth he made other Gods? If not, do all the christians quietly laugh at the Hindus for believing in their multiple Gods? I would bet that christians really want to save the hindus from their folly so that the Hindus could go to christian heaven. And if Christians don't believe in the Hindu gods, why should they expect us to believe in their God????

Wow, so many questions I haven't thought of before. Someone help me sort through the madness.

Attachment: shiva-hindu-god.jpg

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Poster: darkeyes Date: Jun 8, 2007 4:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

You need to read the Genesis account, get yourself a bible, and check it out for yourself. (Gen. 1 and 2). Answers in Genesis (www.answersingenesis.com)can answer any question you may have about creation. I believe in one God, the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the creator and sustainer of life. Creation itself proves their is a God (Psalm 19), "the heavens declare, or proclaim, the glory of God. The Bible also explains that to see the creation, the beauty of God's creation, "we are without excuse" (Romans 1:19-20).

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jun 9, 2007 12:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

Not different gods but different eyes, or facets, or names. An common sound is how Jesus said the word God, assuming he did speak Aramaic. Here's an interesting article that discusses the 'Masks of God' (Joseph Campbell's phrase):
http://www.zaytuna.org/seasonsjournal/article.cfm?article_id=85

The Grateful Dead made 'Not Fade away' sound theological, saying with experiential certainty. You know our love will not fade away -- has both fear and a hope in it.



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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 8, 2007 2:54pm
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I believe in the hindu love gods - they did a mean cover of prince's raspberry beret.

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Poster: acetboy Date: Jun 19, 2007 5:45pm
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This post was modified by acetboy on 2007-06-20 00:45:58

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Poster: nagdot Date: Jun 8, 2007 8:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

People of faith are destroying the world.
And they will probably succeed because their individual
religions demand that they never question, always follow,
and everyone else is wrong and evil

makes sense to me why else would ppl just kill ppl? to me it seems its a battle of who has the better religion. the entire middle east is full of side show religions that have created chaos. everyone hates the jews .after 9-11 everyone hates muslims. many ppl hate catholics as catholics hate each other. is it becuz there is more then 1 god or is it perhaps there is no god? there is no true leader in any religion just followers of faith when they have no faith in themselves . to me religion was formed for that reason .just a safe way to express how much you really hate me ,it isnt based on love at any point

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 8, 2007 5:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

wow man - talk about lost

are you 16?

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Poster: chuck upchuck Date: Jun 8, 2007 6:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

stick a fork in it wolf, let me guess u know all the answers

lousy jackass

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 8, 2007 10:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

basically, yes, i know all the answers

thank you for noticing

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 8, 2007 10:31pm
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Tonight's lotto numbers would be nice to know if that is the case younger Brother!

;)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 8, 2007 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

You need to take a road trip to get those answers:

http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/05/24/arts/24crea.html

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Poster: Scrim Date: Jun 8, 2007 2:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

"Fossils, the museum teaches, are no older than Noah’s flood; in fact dinosaurs were on the ark."

Comic gold!

Time for me to put in a ripping version of Greatest Story.

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Poster: darkeyes Date: Jun 8, 2007 4:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

If you check out the book of Job, specifically (Job 40:15-24) and (Job 41). Both are references to dinosaurs or dinosaur like creatures. God created the earth and everything in it in 6 literal days. The Hebrew word for day is "yom", and means a 24 hour time period. As far as "one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day" (II Peter 3:8 reference. That means that God exists "out of time", unlike we are, so one day with him would seem like a thousand years. God is not bound by time. How did Noah get all those animals on the ark? If you think about it, they werent full grown animals, they were babies. http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/2.asp

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 8, 2007 5:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)

and if you REALLY want to think about it - it is a "story" - it would have been pretty hard for Noah to have two Arctic wolves, two tasmanian river rats, two brazillian dart frogs, two polar bears, two indian white tigers, two north american bald eagles, two new england gold sided salamanders, etc etc etc

a biblical parable people

get a grip

the point of the story is THE POINT - not the story itself

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Poster: acetboy Date: Jun 8, 2007 6:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Question about religion (non-Dead)


"a biblical parable people

get a grip

the point of the story is THE POINT - not the story itself"

Exactly. But for some reason some people still have to take it all
for fact, as written.

And they will read into it whatever suits their agendas.

The Bible is full of interesting storys. But it's silly to run the world
based on one's interpretation of them.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 8, 2007 10:30pm
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k - i'll grant you that - and i agree